A small note to the wise, in 2008 we all
remember the awful recession, and in that recession a few tricks were played by
certain individuals that I will not mention, who are though still trading, and
the trick was this, they knew that bad times were coming, so they did something
very underhanded, and as a supplier to some of these companies, we lost 100’s
of 1000’s of pounds. And the Public lost a lot more.
You must be very wary of the 12 week
waiting time scenario, companies who you think you can trust, tell you the
waiting time is 12/14/16 weeks, and you pay a deposit, after that 16 weeks has elapses,
they go bust! They go off line, and you will receive sorry letters, but your
deposit is gone, and then you have to go back to the bank to see if its
possible to get your money back, we do not have a waiting time, we are as
always pre Virus 4/5 weeks, the same as it was before, and 4/5 weeks after said
Virus.
So if your told to wait, be careful………………….
Please remember , 2007, many resellers went broke, pay by card. deposit and for full payment. Be clever, and be happy! Keep your distance and wear a mask!
Regarding purchasing Cabins, Timber Buildings or any item from Self Employed Dealers. Resellers, who sell our LV or FC brand, if you went to the Self Employed Dealers, reseller, first, please do not come to us, if you have a question, concerns please call us, but as they are resellers, we are unable to do anything legally to them regarding their prices , Please remember and do not forget a business needs earn money, we can say what we think they should be sold at, but we cannot by law demand they sell it at what we think. So, it’s always best to look at other websites, and please remember our cabins are high quality, so like for like pricing will be difficult, but there are a few companies out there that are the same nearly as ours and you can gauge if the pricing if fair or not.
I say this all the time, pay with a credit card………. It keeps you safe.
We have no claim or claims to our dealerships working practises, or who and what they do. We are not responsible for deposits they may take, and we are not responsible for broken doors, windows, or bad workmanship, fitted kitchens, bad fitted bathrooms etc, we however would like to be told this in writing so we can take the matter to the company concerned and ask them to help you with your concerns.
When we deliver a cabin to our resellers, they are the owner of that cabin, timber building etc, until they give it to you, you don’t even own it, once its delivered to you, you sign for it, but before you do, inspect it, you can refuse to sign for it if there is damage. The law is on your side, however if you have had a bespoke cabin made for you, and there are missing parts, or a broken door, you cannot return this, the company (reseller) has 28 days, or whatever his T and C’s say in which to fix your Log Cabin. We have some amazing resellers, and they will bend over to help you have that amazing cabin in your garden.
Here is a note to everyone, only buy a cabin if your job is secure, and you can afford it, as most cabins are bespoke manufactured for you, refunds are almost impossible. So please beware of this.
Please take note, please,please always ask if you can pay with a credit card.
This is the beginning of a new era in Log Cabins where the prices go back to sensibility, the timber is not quick grown rubbish, and the timber quality is better than anything you have seen to date. This is not a joke, but you are paying at the moment over 800-1600 euro per cubic meter depending on the thickness of the log and what species. ( FACT) And the timber is in every sense quick grown pine-spruce,…. Read on……
The Baltics timber is OK… some of it is excellent, if the tree is 60 years plus, but there is not much left., and sadly now most is FAST GROWN and thats why its sold cheaply in bulk by the governments, IKEA pay per cubic meter if you look what per hectare yields that being 250 cubic meters of unseasoned logs approx, give or take 2% , the price per cubic meter is 7 euros, YES 7!!! you pay per cubic meter for your log cabin a massive 800-1600 euros plus. that is for a finished board ( you must remember that it goes through quite a difficult process to make it a square edged ,cabin log) ( kiln drying and and and ) .! However Ikea does get it cheap, and the reason for this is simple, the timber is fast grown crap! ((FACT))… Which is why 70% of it it made into board.. Ikea uses 1% of the worlds timber a year! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2357216/IKEA-uses-staggering-1-worlds-wood-year.html , and do you know what’s funny, they have a FSC badge….. talk about deforestation. I would love to see the fuel bill from all the people and all the cars used and trucks used to haul that amount of timber out of all the forests, and see how much fuel that came to, and then the trucks and people and and replanting if they do??? I think the ECO ethos of this company was lost long ago.
We have been looking for the replanting photos,can’t find any, found millions of their products though, I think we should all think about how green Ikea really is?
And it’s not just Ikea!!!! We are not singling out this company. just putting facts down as they really are.
www,logcabins,lv.co.uk, realise its difficult to change your supplier, who has actually been ripping you off for more than a few years and have gotten very wealthy , and each and every year rise the price of the cabins without actually making your cabin quality any better in any way at all, especially after so many years of lies being told to you about best prices ( which is absolutely shameful lying ) , but everything you have been purchasing lately ( that’s for more than 7 years) is extremely overpriced, and the quality is in our regard crap, its shameful. Most glulam cabins from the baltics are made on vertical presses, and are in essence just loads of finger jointed off cuts , I have seen finger jointed timber manufactured one log that is, from 4 bits of timber, thats madness, that means the log has four joints at the end, and its massively finger jointed through out the log, because of the lack of quality timber, the mills are sticking together whatever they can to manufacture what they call Glulam from, and is sold to you as quality glulam, and what we call here at LV a waste made log (wastelogs) ! It’s not what i would call a beautiful log by any means. many cabins are manufactured from (wastelogs)…
All you have to do is purchase one building of our small 3x4m cabins lets call it a , a “PUNT” and then you will see that what we are telling you is the truth, and why not try it in 80mm Glulam, the prices are near on the same and a Baltic 44mm, but you get so much more for your pound.
Our standard windows and doors will come from our specialised window and door manufacturer for log cabins, and we can honestly say hand on heart our windows and doors are better than anything on the market to date.
To explain the market takes a lot of reading and believing what you read, and then watching for the signs, the first sign we saw were last year when Belarus stopped selling all unseasoned timber to the Baltic’s, this was a sign that the Belarusian government had seen the light thank god, and understood that the Baltic’s were getting seriously fat and extremely wealthy from their timber resources, ( Belorussians now will reap the rewards and the money once coming into the Lithuanian government coffers that was just wasted on guns, tanks, Army, and stuff that they have never really needed will now be spent on Belarusian schools and, kindergartens, and pensions and higher wages as they were only earning a fraction of the actually value of their timber which was being exported to Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.
This was a very smart and clever move by their President. Alexander Lukashenko
However there are extreme consequences to come to the Baltic nations because of the lack of now raw material NOT coming over the border.
Firstly, the price of the cubic meter went up drastically, as Belarus now will only sell timber that is kilned, molded and possible notched. Which means that the waste material that comes from this timber is now not available to the Baltic’s to use for their kilns, this makes a huge difference, no more Eco heating pellets in bulk, and plus the Lithuania government have from the first of January 2020 upped its price of gas by a huge 15% plus electric, and to make matters worse for the Lithuanians the tariff is on amount, so the more you use the higher the tariff. Some say unfair, but when you have a country that only has a Police Force that is not corrupt, but everything else around you is, then you have problems. I am all for the Lithuanian Police Force, they will even arrest a President. But sadly they do not make the policies. It would be perfect if the chief of police of Vilnius Renatas Požėla or someone of this man’s rank was elected President. Then Lithuania would be a just and serving country to all. ( Nothing political here, just observations).
So as you can imagine this will increase prices drastically next year and the years to come, which means you either pay more for your log cabin and earn minus or look for a different cabin supplier. The customers will not keep earning And as we were the first in the UK to sell cabins, designed pretty much every design now offered by everyone, including our Clock house, twin skin system etc, we think that we have the right to share with you, the customer the truth.
Fact, Belarus planted 145.000 hectares of Pine /Spruce since 2014. And it’s a fact that the country is 49% forest. Also fact is that The Belarusian President believes his forests to be the jewel of the country and understands the value of replanting and conservation and forest management. This is Fact……… Fact, Belarusian timber if we pick Scots Pine is in my opinion one of the best in this end of the world.
None of this is guess work, or fantasy, its fact, and life for the cabin industries in the Baltic’s will change and sadly not for the better.Over the next 10 years will be gone at the rate the government is selling off forestry land to large and hungry customers like Ikea!
As you have read on previous blogs associated to this topic, the Baltic’s countries have been totally mad and have sold all their forest land to IKEA, not trees, but land that they sit on, so the Lithuanians who were once proud of their forests will in the not so distant future see massive price hikes at the government timber log actions for the logs that are left, and trust me, the ones that are left will not be the best ones.
Which means a price hike in every area. And means, you the cabin seller, will see a a 3×3 in the not so distant future costing in 28mm over 100 euros to buy ex works.
Log Cabins LV .co.uk have over the last few years seen this coming and decided to change our buying, manufacturing keep our Eco credentials and manufacturing in a country that has one of the largest forests in this end of the world, are FSC certified, and where the timber is the best, plus there timber management system is flawless, also we are now able to offer 2002 pricing on our buildings, be them glulam, timber frame, and solid wood cabins starting at 44,mm and above. Just ask us and we will oblige.
If you are interested in joining the winning team then please do not hesitate to send us an email. Thanks for reading folks, I am not a journalist, so if this is a hard read for some, apologise, but sometimes it’s hard writing facts and making it enjoyable at the same time. (Actually this is for the Lithuanians a sad day because it means honestly an end to the cabin market here).
Carrying on from yesterdays Blog I have a
few facts that might be of interest to you that care as I do about this industry
and about quality/pricing and raw materials.
And Why the Log Cabin market will move away from the Baltic’s in the coming years completely. And why it is a very sensible choice to buy your Log cabins from LV..
Firstly, because we care about the forests,
we care about your customer, we care about you and we understand that making a
profit is essential.
Here are some facts about what is happening
in the Baltic countries, and this will shock you.
Last year, IKEA bought a total of
72,000 hectares of forests in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Romania for at
least 115 mln euros, this is from an article Bloomberg has done research on, then
said with reference to Sweden’s farmer daily ATL.
IKEA did not elaborate on the share of
forests purchased by the Swedish concern in Lithuania and the sum paid for the
holdings in Lithuania.
IKEA’s subsidiary IRI
Investments last summer purchased 33,600 hectares of forest in Romania,
becoming the largest forest owner in this country. According to Romania Insider
portal, the sum of the deal was EUR 50 mln. Thus, the estimates suggest that
forests for EUR 65 mln have been purchased in the Baltic States, Verslo Zinios
reported.
ATL said that IKEA plans to
continue purchase of forests in order to reduce dependence on fluctuation of
timber prices.
Also we must not forget that in the Baltic
States there are rumors, because the governments from each state will not put
on record how much forest is replanted, but in 2012 there was a survey done by
Yale university that Lithuania (its where I am so I care about this country a
little more than the other Baltic states) but none the less I care very much
about sustainability.
So Lithuania in 2012 got the best score for
being Super Green, now we are 84th on the list of countries that
manage forest well!
I have added a few photos of how sadly deforestation is happening at an alarming rate.
This Photo shows one of the oldest massive forests in Lithuania in 2005/ 2006
The same massive forest in 2018/2019…….. GONE……………… This is not how you harvest a forest… And why is it now fields?
This is not the way to cut forest, and if you are truly a company that cares about where your log cabin timber comes from , and how it is sourced, then a rethink of your supplier is seriously needed. Just because you see FSC you think its ok, its not!
Tomorrow I will try and show how forest management in other countries really work, and how other countries understand the necessity of replanting . Sadly some countries fall foul to greed not ECO management. Also there should be limits on how many cubic meters of timber companies can cut each year! Also if they are bragging that they only use FSC then they should be made to replant immediately. Not 4/5/6 years later. And to replant 2 trees for every one they cut.
Forests are not just a resource for log cabins, timber buildings etc, they also help the Ecosystem, for example, flowers, birds and all wild life, Deer, Boar, foxes, mushrooms, berries, so much , yet as you can see by these first photos i have shown, the ECOsystem is completely destroyed. And yes our Team care, which is why we are moving our full production of manufacturing of our cabins to another country that one has better timber, two cares about its timber resources and three replants more than anyone else. Last year alone 145.000 hectares.
We hope you join us and not buy or overpay for cabins that are manufactured from timber that should never ever have been allowed to be felled.
Are you looking for a quality insulated residential log cabin?
Have you visited many websites where the sales staff know absolutely nothing, but try and get you to purchase a 44mm x 44mm twinskin, and they insist it’s of residential quality and that you can’t get better, and that their prices are absolutely amazing! Well, if you have met these people and they try and sell you this, get them to write you and email, get them to put residential on the quotation they send you by email, and then send it to trading standards.
quality twin skin log cabins
We were the first company ever to manufacture, and sell the twin skin log cabin system into the market, we know more about twin skin designs and what they can do and can’t, than anyone in the market! And we have never tried to palm off a 44mm x 44mm as a quality residential building.
(As these companies are scamming you 100% ).
A 44mm x 44mm is not residential quality! And…..Can never be a Residential ..
Well, as always in our blogs, we are today going to talk about a few companies in the UK, actually one, that have a whole selection of residential buildings in 44mm x 44m which they call Residential.
Now sadly, the boys from the Baltic’s sometimes get their English words mixed up, and because of this we have to give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their literature, and how they explain themselves, and how they call their garden log cabins. As a 44mm x 44mm is truly a quality insulated GARDEN CABIN. It is not a residential , never has been never will be!
There is always a con to be had, and sadly the foreign companies that have started to come into our market place, see that there actually is no regulation, which means policing, which then makes them think that they can say anything they want, and you the British public will listen to it, and believe it, and sadly 70% of you know, know different.
So today, I am going to help our Baltic brothers and sisters out, and give them a lesson in English.
The Word Residential means, a place where someone can live.
It also means that a full time dwelling, must have all certification behind it, to be worthy of the definition Residential.
Which means a building must go thorough inspections, and each and every part of the Residential Structure means meeting the UK building regulations.
So when I see a Company that is in all intense and purposes trying to sell to the UK public a TwinSkin Log Cabin in 44mm x 44mm and they use the work Residential in the selling title, knowing full well that a 44mm x 44mm is not residential quality, it makes my blood boil, as it’s a con, and needs to be reported.
The images below are all 80mm x 80mm glulam logs, pinned and pegged, with full insulation between all the logs, and dovetailed, this kind of twin skin set up will pass building regulations.
So we have done a few images to show you a 44mm x 44mm twinskin log walls, and the difference between that, and a 80mm x 80mm laminated engineered log.
In addition, the construction of the roof in a residential cabin is of high importance, plus the windows and doors must be certified for fire and theft.
There are many of you out there that purchase solely because of price, this will come back and bite you on the ass, as when you go to resell it, or the local council send a survey down to check your building, 99.9% of the time they condemn it! and tell you to take it down. A 44mm x 44mm Twin Skin cabin will not even conform to the New 2016 BS3632 caravan act. So, be aware…By cheap buy twice…
If you really want sound advice, for a company that even builds schools in twin skin logs (which must also conform to Ofsted) and if any of you out there know about Ofsted, they make you jump through hoops with a pig on your back, backwards.
If in doubt, and want the truth, give us a call. Log Cabins LV the sensible choice!